claims#etre-makes-us-human-not-only-other

Per Saint Aubert, in late MP *being itself humanizes us* — not the other alone — a strong anti-Sartrean / anti-Hegelian intersubjective humanism

ID: etre-makes-us-human-not-only-other Title: Per Saint Aubert, in late MP being itself humanizes us — not the other alone — a strong anti-Sartrean / anti-Hegelian intersubjective humanism Status: candidate Confidence: low Claim type: interpretive Created: 2026-06-14 Updated: 2026-06-14 Sources: saintaubert-2023-etre-et-chair Wiki homes: portance

Claim

Per Saint Aubert 2023 III.3, in MP's late ontology being itself contributes to making us human ("L'être aussi nous fait humains, et pas seulement autrui"), not the encounter with the other alone. Our confrontation with and endurance of being, in our flesh — working the indeterminate, crystallizing it, giving it sense and body — "contributes to instituting us as human." This displaces the cardinal intersubjectivist source of humanization (the look / recognition of the other) onto being, working "together AND apart" through being's dialectic of envelopment and development: we constitute one another and are constituted as human by being's own bearing (portance). The reading is a strong anti-Sartrean (humanization is not won against the other's gaze) and anti-Hegelian (not only the labor of recognition between self and other) thesis about the source of the human.

Evidence

• saintaubert-2023-etre-et-chair III.3 (raw 533) — verbatim: "L'être aussi nous fait humains, et pas seulement autrui... c'est ensemble... que nous éprouvons sa portance, et que nous pouvons l'un l'autre, et ensemble, nous constituer humains." Anchored in extraction-note Pass 2c (key passage III.3 p. 25) + Pass 3 Part D candidate #5; raw line 533 confirmed by targeted source check (General Rule 18).
• saintaubert-2023-etre-et-chair III.3 (raw 517) — corroborating: "La transcendance, alors, ne surplombe pas l'homme, il en est étrangement le porteur privilégié" (PM 118, cited) — the "common transcendence" / surrection commune that grounds the humanization-by-being reading.

Counterpressure / Limits

• Not a verbatim MP claim. "L'être aussi nous fait humains" is Saint Aubert's own sentence (raw 533), not an MP quotation; the cardinal MP formula remains "L'homme n'est qu'un nœud de relations" (PhP 520). It is Saint Aubert's strong reading, not a thematized MP thesis.
• Limited textual base in this paper. The 2023 paper is condensational; the thesis may be carried more thoroughly in Saint Aubert's books (E&C II 2021; Du lien des êtres 2004), not yet checked against this specific claim. Single source → candidate.
• Anti-Sartrean framing is interpretive. Reading "not only the other" as a polemic against Sartrean intersubjectivity is the extraction note's gloss; the sentence is compatible with a both/and reading (being and the other humanize) that is less polemical than "anti-Sartrean" suggests.

Payoff

If accepted, the claim adds an anti-Sartrean / anti-Hegelian humanism thesis to portance's ontological architecture: humanization has a third source beyond the self and the other — namely being's portance — which coordinates with (but is distinct from) the anti-monism thesis claims#etre-not-monde-but-rends-sensible-monde (live). It locates MP's late humanism not in intersubjective recognition but in the flesh's transactional working of being, making "common humanization" a structural feature of the three-term ontology rather than a residue of the Phenomenology's intersubjectivity.

Status History

• 2026-06-14 — created at candidate (audit v1.8 D4, non-cohort harvest walk); single-source (Saint Aubert 2023 III.3 only) and the central sentence is Saint Aubert's reading rather than a verbatim MP claim, so the gate caps at candidate. Contestable (against the both/and reading and against the cardinal nœud-de-relations formula) and anchored in extraction note + verified raw 533. Confidence low because the textual base in this paper is thin. Promotion to live requires the thesis confirmed against Saint Aubert 2021/2004 (now or formerly in raw/) or a second source articulating being-as-humanizing.

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